Showing posts with label ecaudor. Show all posts
Showing posts with label ecaudor. Show all posts

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Regarding Ecuador's windfall tax on mining


Following on from the Denver Gold Forum presentations yesterday (see link in previous post), I've so far had two people, make that three people writing in and asking me about the windfall tax (WFT) proposed by Ecuador, cos apparently there are some scare stories propagated by the uninformed going around. What follows is based on my reply to the mailers adapted into a post.

The situation is that there's a proposed WFT on metals prices that would take 70%. It still hasn't been pacted and it's also in the air whether it ever gets enacted, but the key to the whole story is the theshold level. The gov't and miners still have to agree on where the payments for windfall gains start. Here's a quick 'n' dirty example for Dynasty Metals (DMM.to) and for gold, but the situation is the same for all miners and WFT is proposed on all metals:

Let's suppose the 70% Au WFT threshold is set at $1,000/oz and DMM has cash costs of $300 /oz and let's also suppose total costs per ounce of $500/oz, so under this theoretical here's how much the company would make per ounce:

$800/oz Au = $300 profit
$900/oz Au = $400 profit
$1000/oz Au = $500 profit
$1100/oz Au = $530 profit
$1300/oz Au = $590 profit
$1500/oz Au = $650 profit

Now if the WFT threshold is set at $1200/oz the numbers work like this:

$800/oz Au = $300 profit
$900/oz Au = $400 profit
$1000/oz Au = $500 profit
$1100/oz Au = $600 profit
$1300/oz Au = $730 profit
$1500/oz Au = $790 profit

As you can see, the threshold level doesn't affect numbers below it and leaves plenty in the way of profits, but at some point it does limit the blue sky possibilities of a miner. Also, it's pretty important to know what level it kicks in. The negotiations are ongoing, but what we do know is that the threshold level cannot be set lower than spot prices. Finally, I've heard that some fools are going around screaming that companies like DMM.to have "hidden" this information from investors. This is BS. The WFT proposal has been in the public domain for over a year and a half, first published by Ecuador's gov't, via its tax ministry (not the mining ministry) in December 2007.

So people new to the story can't be bothered to do a bit of basic DD and are now running around saying that the sky is falling....well, as David Byrne would say, "same as it ever was". The best thing is to let the uninformed believe what they want to believe. They're the ones queuing up to give you their money, so just smile sweetly and let them.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Ecuador Bonds: drip, drip, drip.....

mmmmmm...yummy...muffins

The ongoing Ecuador bonds saga is kinda fun to watch (in the same way it's fun to scratch a mosquito bite). Sure enough, the world that knows what's going on continues to drip-feed information to the world that doesn't, with the process continuing yesterday.

First up is Bloomberg, with an admittedly well-written note from Stephan Kueffner who reports how Debt Committee member Olmos explained that Ecuador's legal recourse may block Correa from defaulting on the bonds. Again, this is nothing new to those who've been giggling from the beginning about all this (count me in), but perhaps the most telling line in Kueffner's note is this one...

Ecuador’s debt paced gains among emerging market bonds today after Olmos’ comments, rising 0.75 cent to 27.25 cents.

....meaning the headless chickens chasing the story are still reacting to the drip-fed news. Gotta laugh. Now 3/4 of a cent may not sound like much to you, but a 2.8% move in a bond isn't anything to ignore. More interesting is the way something that should be known to anyone with skin in Ecuador bonds can be thought of as news and move the markets. The phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

Next up we had Celso Amorim, Brazil equivalent of Foreign Secretary (you might remember him as Brazil's point man in the Doha talks). He also pointed out the blatantly obvious by saying that if Ecuador defaulted it would affect credit ratings in the whole of the region, not just that sovereign state. Thus the "regional" card is played and the honourable way out for Studmuffin begins to be mapped. Let's see how far those expert analysts who couldn't find Quito on a map take this one......

Final addition is the fun part, with Ecuador's MPD party (aligned with Correa) petitioning for prison sentences for eight of the nine Presidents that came before Studmuffin (namely Sixto Durán Ballén, León Febres Cordero, Oswaldo Hurtado, Rodrigo Borja, Fabián Alarcón, Gustavo Noboa, Jamil Mahuad y Lucio Gutiérrez), the "lock 'em away forever!!" shouts due to their supposed collusion with those nasty foreign bankers and their nasty bonds. This call has as much chance of prospering as Alan García on 'Dancing With The Stars', but at least it makes for an interesting sideshow.

By the way and as a little sidebar to round this off, the only Prez left off this list is Abdalá Bucaram, who was Ecuador's head honcho for a full six months in the 90s before being stripped of the job due to "mental incapacity" (Otto shits thee not, dearest reader). Check the wikipedia entry on this guy for some general background, but "El Loco Bucaram" one of my all-time fave characters in LatAm politics and (among a thousand tales to tell) owner of one of the best political quotes of all-time-ever-amen. He once called previous Ecuador President Rodrigo Borja "a donkey" (un burro), which is pretty insulting in Spanish as it's a synonym for "really stupid". It caused outrage at the time, and there were calls from all quarters for Bucaram to apologize. He then said, "I have to admit that it was a terrible thing to compare Borja with a donkey. I apologize to all donkeys".* The exact quote is underneath because it's even funnier in Spanish.

Related Posts
Ecuador and Brazil rock them gently to sleep
Ecuador Bonds: The Eurasi Group's take on things
Finally, a decent quote on the Ecuador bonds saga from Bloomberg
The Ecuador Debt Commission's final debt report is published
Ecuador bonds: The Audit Committee of Public Credit Presentation

*"Yo tengo que reconocer que fue una barbaridad comparar a Borja con un burro. Yo le pido disculpas a los burros"